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Back in mid-September, I was watching one of Tim's starts against the Brewers. He was pitching okay, gave up two runs on a bloop single, it was the fifth inning and the Giants were down 2-0. Tim was getting ready to hit when the Giants' manager, Bruce Bochy, decided to pull him from the game in favor of a pinch hitter (because Tim is a terrible hitter and the idea was that anyone else would be better in a situation where the Giants needed to score runs, which they hadn't been doing consistently, Tim's contributions notwithstanding).

So Tim was pulled, and he was furious. I had never seen him so angry. I mean, I had never really seen him even borderline angry in general, so I was kind of uncomfortable and simultaneously fascinated by Tim fuming on the bench in the dugout.

Then Bochy game over to where he was sitting, grabbed Tim's knees and pushed them apart, and slid his body in between his legs and talked to him and I did not know what to do. First my existing discomfort ratcheted up exponentially. Then I recoiled at the reality of what I was seeing.

And then, I kind of liked it.

Bochy eventually wandered off to continue managing the game, and Tim sat in the dugout like so:
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It was explained afterwards that Bochy was "calming Tim down." Mainly all it did was plant a seed of an idea that has been intermittently nurtured over the ensuing months.

So, confession time. Basically, I kind of have a thing now for Tim and older men.

I probably shouldn't. I alarm even myself with it sometimes. And yet I keep collecting photos here and there, pretending it's all innocent, and now I'm going to share them with you.

It all starts with Tim's dad, and not necessarily in a creepy way. At least, not in that creepy way. It's still plenty weird though.

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Tim's dad is obsessed with him, taught him how to pitch, calls him his "soulmate," admits to being sad that Tim doesn't call him every day now that he's in the majors, and keeps a notebook where he has meticulously logged every game of Tim's career. Video where Chris Lincecum takes you inside The Notebook here. It's kind of a lot.

So I have this little theory, which can be distilled to this: Tim grew up with a father who was super-involved and super-obsessed, and once he made it to the major leagues, he didn't have that presence in his life anymore. So maybe Tim is seeking out a father figure, or perhaps the people around him sense that void and are trying to fill it, as it were. And maybe it's a little twisted. But it's just a theory.

Regardless, to the pictures.

Tim and Bochy is still the gold standard, the love that dares not speak its name.
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Then there's Bengie Molina, who was the catcher for the Giants until last summer and who remembers "vivid details" about Tim which he likes to tell the local paper during the World Series.

To quote:

On what he told the Giants: "The first time I was up, I wished Posey luck and he wished me luck. Then I looked out at Lincecum and touched the bill of my cap, and he touched his in response. I had as special a relationship with Timmy as I have had with any pitcher. Maybe because he was so young when I began catching him and I became a mentor to him. We have texted since I was traded but I had not seen him or talked to him in person until the game yesterday. I had heard he had said really nice things about me to the press."

On what he told Lincecum: "When he came up to bat for the first time, I stood and told him, 'I want you to know that hits or no hits, win or lose, you're my boy.' (Lincecum said:) 'Hey, Be-Mo, I love you.'"


So that's kind of a lot, too.

Bengie and Tim, when he was still just a tiny thing:
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(It's hard to believe he's actually taller than someone, for once.)
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And of course Barry Zito's the original. He's not even that much older than Tim, honestly, but he's still technically an older man, so I think it's only fair that he get his share of this post.

Could Tim look any younger, and Barry any creepier, in this pic?
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And some other randoms, for the hell of it.

Pat Burrell.
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Phillies coach Charlie Manuel.
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Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti.
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Well, that was cathartic. And embarrassing. But if I can't be honest with my flist, who can I tell such things to?

Date: 2010-12-03 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soupypictures.livejournal.com
I haaaaaaaate how much I love those pictures of him with Manuel. And I think if he has to be with any of them, other than B'z, it's gotta be Rags.

Date: 2010-12-03 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] horizon-greene.livejournal.com
The Manuel pics are some of my faves, too, even though I don't particularly care for the guy. Not to say I dislike him. I'm just essentially neutral.

Gotta say I'm still leaning towards Molina, myself ;)
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Date: 2010-12-03 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] horizon-greene.livejournal.com
Thank you :)

The fic would be so interesting. I don't know if I'll ever manage to go there as far as writing it, but I would read it like crazy, for sure.

Date: 2010-12-03 08:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunsetfog.livejournal.com
I don't like the idea of anything other than fatherly affection, but I have to say, reading interviews with quotes from Bengie and Tim where they talk about each other kind of broke my heart after the trade, even though it had to happen. (I wish Bengie could have stayed with the team, but apparently his contract guaranteed him a certain # of starts so he couldn't be a backup.)

I know Zito is technically older, but in the sense that so many baseball players act like kids, I don't really think of him as much of an older man. It's not like he's Jamie Moyer, anyway.

Who's the 3rd person in that Triples Alley pic?

Date: 2010-12-03 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] horizon-greene.livejournal.com
It seems like Tim and Bengie were pretty bonded. Poor things, sounds like they miss each other a lot.

Now that you mention it, I have no idea who that mysterious third person is...

Hmm.

Date: 2010-12-04 09:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunsetfog.livejournal.com
Bengie wrote in his blog that he found out about the trade from his teammates when they read about it on the internet, so I can imagine it was a pretty emotional time for everyone. He has some other, older stories about Tim in there too, IRC.

Date: 2010-12-07 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] park-hye-in.livejournal.com
embarrassing catharsis ftw! i love your picspams so much.

Date: 2010-12-07 04:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] horizon-greene.livejournal.com
It was an emotional whirlwind, this post.

Glad you liked :D

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